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Hohner chromatica 261 14inch 70reed (blow only)
« on: September 19, 2007, 04:18:41 PM »
Hi there, i'm hoping somebody might be able to give me a bit of information about this instrument as I know absolutely nothing about Harmonicas. My friend acquired it some time ago, but we've yet to find a similar one online. Any images of 261's that we've seen are much smaller in size than this particular one.

Any information about it's age (it looks very old) or it's origin etc would be appreciated.

Thanks in Advance ;D
 
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Re: Hohner chromatica 261 14inch 70reed (blow only)
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2007, 05:35:05 PM »
Hello, Louise.
The Hohner Chromatica #261 was of the Chromatica series of harmonicas. It hasn't been produced by Hohner for many years. It was displayed
in the Hohner catalog of 1971, but was discontinued shortly after that time. Of the 261, 262 and 263, only the 263 is produced today.

The Chromaticas #261, 262 and 263 were "glissando" chromatics. That is, the reeds were set in a position of adjacent half steps in a horizontal row
(left to right-A, A#, B, C, etc., chromatic, without a slide button).

The #261 was an octave-tuned instrument, blow only. On an octave tuned harmonica, each vertically paired set of holes has 2 reeds tuned 8 diatonic
scale notes apart. Octave tuned harmonicas have increased loudness compared to the non-octave harmonicas. On an octave harp, the lower pitched
reed boosts the amplitude (volume) of the upper reed of the vertical pair.

The 261's first vertical pair on the left(with a piano keyboard embossed on the cover) had two reeds: the low A in the bass clef and the high A of the
bass clef. The range of the #261 was almost 3 octaves, A to G, 70 reeds. The hole farthest vertical pair to the right had two G notes, one was the high
G above the treble clef, and the other was the G above that.

By playing every other horizontal hole on the glissando chromatics, you could play major, or minor, or other music scales. The glissando harmonicas
were originally designed for use in the harmonica orchestras popular in the 1930s and '40s, and became less popular as the decades progressed.

Other Chromaticas in the series included the #265 and #268 (both are 2-deck bass harmonicas), and the #267, a 48 chord harmonica. These
three Chromaticas are still produced by Hohner, and copies are made by other harmonica manufacturers.

If you'd like to get a production date on your harmonica, it may not be possible, but an estimate can be made to within about 10 years. If the
wood "comb" (body) has a "marbled" look on front, back and sides, it's probably one made between 1930 and 1938. Sometime after that,
a solid color wood stain was used.

Check the harmonica's underside metal cover, the one with the words, "M. Hohner's Chromatica #261." Look at the center of the trademark logo,
the part with the two hands holding a circle. Inside the circle, if there is a 6-pointed star, your harmonica was made from about 1930 to before 1938.

After 1937, the German government ordered the Hohner company to remove the 6-pointed star from the Hohner logo, claiming that it was a Jewish
religious symbol-The Star of David. It actually commemorated the 6 officers of the Hohner company. After 1937 and to this day, the center of the
circle in the trademark has no star. If your harmonica has no star, it may have been produced anywhere from 1937 to shortly after 1971.

Check the trademark again, but look at the circles with cities and Grand Prix medallion dates listed (Chicago, 1893; Philadelphia, 1926; Geneve(Geneva)
1927; Paris, 1937). The most recent medallion year listed will tell you that your harmonica was produced AFTER that date.

There is one interesting contradiction to the star dating. In the 1971 catalog, the Hohner Chromaticas all have the 6-pointed star in the photographs.
Maybe they used old photographs of the Chromaticas. You can get an estimate of your harp's vintage by using all of the above check points to make
an educated guess. The star in the logo is only one indication.

John Broecker


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Re: Hohner chromatica 261 14inch 70reed (blow only)
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2015, 10:58:10 AM »
John, I don't mean to be a bother on your theories but several Chromatica 261s were made after 1937 with the 6 point star, similar to the bass harmonicas. Hohner after the war had a LOT of old stock, and I have a original sales receipt from 1964 for a brand new 261 that had prewar covers. The only way i have found is to look at the thickness of the webs in the comb. Most prewars had very thin webs... the later 261s did not.
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Re: Hohner chromatica 261 14inch 70reed (blow only)
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2015, 05:30:47 PM »
Hello, A.j. Windmeyer.

Thanks for the information about the Hohner #261 old stock parts.

Did the newer (circa 1974) Chromatica #261 have a "marbled' pattern on the comb?
I haven't seen a "newer" 261. Mine is from the 1930s.

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Re: Hohner chromatica 261 14inch 70reed (blow only)
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2015, 05:46:38 PM »
John,

I have owned 4 Chromatica 261s in the past 4 years. My earliest (perhaps a first generation) doesn't have any marbling but a "Shaved" comb. The second has a marbled comb. It was made around 1931-ish judging by the rivit design. The third is postwar but has a simple brown colour scheme. The 4th is prewar but has the later thick comb. It has no marbling.
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Re: Hohner chromatica 261 14inch 70reed (blow only)
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2015, 10:03:57 PM »
Hi 261 fans,

Recently i received my rarest poly i think i have. The prototype model numberless 261, circa 1920? If anyone wants to see this i will get some pictures up. Interestingly the newest date like my pre-265 is 1881, not 1937.

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