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The perfect harmonica at a reasonable price

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roady43:
CX 12 Jazz or Meisterklasse.
Both with best mouthpiece conditions ever...

roady43

llumagsara:

--- Quote from: gtfossum on March 29, 2011, 03:53:31 PM ---
I play left handed, so I must be able to rebuild the harmonica to switch the mouthpiece around. Usually, that's not a problem.



What kind of harmonica is there really that would fit or closely fit my requirements? Or can I put something together that may fit and sound good?

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hello gtfossum


Chromonica 270 Deluxe
http://www.hohner.de/index.php5?2459
is builded also for lefthandeds

good health

Agustin

Scotty:

--- Quote from: gtfossum on March 29, 2011, 03:53:31 PM ---Okay, it may be utopian, but here's the deal: I already have a Hohner Super 64 Chromonica. It has been through a few falling down into the floor or asphalt so it probably needs some servicing to be at its very best again. More importantly I've always found it a little big to control vibrato properly while also controlling the slider. So I'm thinking of buying a 12 hole harmonica as my main instrument and repair the Super 64 and keep as a supplement.

However, I have some requirements:

Silver coated mouthpiece for better saliva flow and thus harmonica easily sliding between lips.
Full (enclosed) cover plates for good volume. This is important since I often play together with others at sing alongs.
Easy reed response. Who wouldn't want that?
I want to be able to produce the clear bell like sound of my fellow countryman Sigmund Groven. I haven't actually tried or heard the Suzukis live, but my impression is that they are a little darker in their tone than Hohner.
I play left handed, so I must be able to rebuild the harmonica to switch the mouthpiece around. Usually, that's not a problem.

In short, a 12 hole Super 64(48) would probably be the ideal. Or even better a  Concert Harmonica Polle with steel covers and a brass comb.

What kind of harmonica is there really that would fit or closely fit my requirements? Or can I put something together that may fit and sound good?

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I'm going to commit sacrilege here (as a confirmed CX-12 fan and supporter), and suggest that IF you want that same bell-like tone as your Super 64's....try a Seydel Deluxe.

I can't speak for all of them, but a few years ago (pre-CX-12's), I was searching for a Bb chromatic which would 'match' the same tone I was getting on my Super 64's. It seemed an impossible task. I already had every 270 imaginable, had tried Herings, every diatonic ...couldn't get 'that' sound, so when I switched from My 16 C to a Bb it was noticeable.

Passing by Ruper Oysler's Seydel 'shop' at Buckeye one afternoon I stopped to chat. Casually mentioned this issue. He brought out this 12 hole chromatic (very beautiful) in Bb. Insisted I play (something I rarely do, but since it was brand new I didn't mind). And there it was! That same gorgeous tone I've always heard from the Super 64's...that 'ringing' tone...but from a much smaller, easily managed Bb Seydel. I bought it on the spot (and he gave me a great deal). Around $100 for that particular instrument at that particular time. Of course they're probably more expensive today. Truly one of my best purchases ever.

IF I'm playing a song where I'm having a difficult time nailing the Bb (while all my great jazz friends are easily playing in Bb on their 16's), I can use this instrument to fit in without any noticeable change in my sound.

I admit I don't play it all that often since I usually use all of my CX's, including my Bb Cx-12 as my 'working' chroms... but they have an entirely different tone.

Based on your requirements, the Seydel might be the one you're seeking.

(Straight tuned, square holes, btw, and even though I do NOT like the big square holes of the 270, I don't mind them at all on this instrument since they seem smaller and smoother).  It's a real beauty, with the softest, smoothest slide button I've ever used.

YMMV.  No affiliation other than it's my sole Seydel and it's truly a gorgeous little instrument.

Elizabeth (a/k/a Scotty)

roady43:
Remembering my joy when I took my first Seydel Deluxe out of the box for the very first time about 4 years ago, I can confirm what Scotty says about that chrom! I soon ordered another one since they were still produced with the wooden comb at the time. I don't know if there is a big difference in sound and feeling with the new acrylic comb today.

roady43

gtfossum:
Thank you all for taking time out to answer my question!

I have some comments, however, and a few new questions:

The CX-12. I'm afraid I'm a little vain also. The cx-12 is a little too much plastic for my taste. Besides, in my opinion it also sounds a little plastic. Interesting, though, that it is so slippery. I read the product information on www.hohner.de and it seems the instrument is somehow coated to achieve that.

The biggest problem with the CX-12 is that it can not be rebuild for left hand use. At least I think I've read that somewhere. I would prefer not having to learn to play all over again.

I'm sorry, the CX-12 is the one harmonica I don't want, no matter what, but I'll still keep it in mind.

The 270 de luxe. Yes I have considered using the 270 de luxe as a starting point, but I would have liked to change mouthpiece, cover plates and comb on that harmonica. Does anyone know of anyting that would fit and make the 270 de luxe closer to my ideal?

I woulld have liked to buy a Bill Romel's Virtuoso, but it is a little more expensive than I can afford, I think. Also I have no idea if it is at all available after Bill's passing away.

The Seydel
Yes I realise it is a good option, but what about its volume? Can it withstand a little competition from other instruments? Also Seydel does not offer enclosed cover plates.

I wasn't looking for the same sound as in my Super 64. Rather it is the bell like sound from the Polle concert harmonica when Sigmund Groven is playing on it

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